Thursday, August 09, 2007

Bounce Cycles By Commenters

Well, a few people who visit this blog are really smart!

They are actually copying classic cartoons because they want to learn the best way to animate.

If they keep at it, they will surpass many folks who just kind of wing it and try to teach themselves.

***BTW, count your drawings. There should be 24 drawings in the whole cycle, and each one shot for 1 frame-at 24 frames per second...

Here they are:


Treasure


Groo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woFiSFeTzLY


Mad Taylor

http://madsbasement.blogspot.com/



Anne-Arky

I think Anne just made one up...




Chet

OK, Chet. I watched it. It's good but you shot it on "2's". You need to shoot it on "1's". Just one frame for each drawing. Then it will move faster-it should be 2 beats per second. 12 drawings per beat....makes sense?

Bosco Swing by ~Thunderrobot on deviantART


Guilherme

http://2dflashart.blogspot.com/2007/08/john-k-bosko-exercises.html

I can't get Guilherme's to play either, but maybe you can

Matt Greenwood

http://mgreenwood.blogspot.com/2007/08/bosko-animation-study.html


Matt's action is good, but the volumes keep changing.

Kate Yarberry

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=15097788


Now if all these dedicated folks keep studying the old stuff, they might get to the point where they can animate as well as this:


Milt Gross (thanks to William) - note how everything moves o musical beats!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl28k_jitterbug-follies-1939-milt-gross


So where are the rest of you wanna-be animators?

37 comments:

Okapi Figment William said...

That last cartoon is really fantastic!

Matt Greenwood said...

Thanks for the feedback!
Should I work on the construction lessons to get more control over the volumes? Or would practicing the cycles help with that?

Thunderrobot(aka Chet) said...

http://www.deviantart.com/download/61898164/Bosco_Swing_by_Thunderrobot.mov - click this link

John, on the left of the page there is a sidebar with a computer monitor icon on it, if you click the icon you should be able to see my animation.

Ryan G. said...

Hey John! Just finished my Bosko cycle. Its posted on my blog!

Paul B said...

JAJAJAJ, THAT MILT GROSS CARTOON IS GREAT! ALL THE CHARACTERS ARE REALLY UNIQUE AND FUNNY.

I LOVE THE PART WHEN THE GUY OF CITIZEN'S COMITTEE ON FAIR PLAY DESTROY THE DOOR.

THE "FAIR" WORD IT'S FUNNY TOO!

TODAY ALL DRAW THE PENGUINS THE SAME WAY...

:(

Robotron said...

Hey John, have you ever come across the animator Mike L. Mayfield on youtube? He's hyper creative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtVbAazUekM

Tim said...

Wow, that Milt Gross cartoon was incredible. The fact that future cartoonists are learning from this blog is amazing - it's one step towards getting cartoons that good again.

John said...

I Did actually animate this but unfortunutly had no way to put in on my computer!ButI Gotta thank you for the lessons Jon me and Im sure lots of other people would be totally lost without them!

kate yarberry said...

I'm working on it, been busy painting. I'll send you something within the day. I swear. Or you can kick me.

kate yarberry said...

Oh wait, you put up that crap I made. That was kind of a joke. I mean its only like four drawings. I was going to do bosko for real...

kate yarberry said...
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kate yarberry said...

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=15453740

There is a link to the Bosko I just made. *wipes sweat from brow* now you can't kick me. HA!

Bruce said...

I'm doing the excercise myself; The only problem is that my scanner isn't co-operating with me.
If I could only show you my stuff...



Oh, I forgot to leave my MSN user name last time, so here it is, in case if you wanted to chat: The_Spirit-38@hotmail.com

This had been said by thousands of thousands of users, but Thank you, JOHN, for the informative, yet free, knowlege.

Mitch said...

I did a new attempt as well :)

Edd said...

Haha, these are creat. i like seeing other peoples input. I would try but im not as good as these guys :D

Brian B said...

Really cool guys. I got most of them to play, including the first one John mentioned woudln't from deviantart. Did you use a scanner on these? And did the animation on a lightboard? Obviously some are done on the computer with a wacom.

What do you suggest the cheapest, but effective way of doing this would be John?

Peggy said...

I should do this. See how badly my actual animatiom skills have atrophied.

Oh, and here's something you might be interested in: a little anecdote by a guy who's worked in color correction of cartoon transfers, and fought with people about pumping up the colors and so on. Not even the original releases were immune from that.

angello ///// said...

Hey John!
This is my Bosco "Cat" Cycle...
Cheers/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ1h-py9sXI

Kevin Langley said...

I tried my hand at an Oswald walk cycle but somewhere between the first and last drawings there is too much space causing a noticeable jump when the cycle starts to repeat. I'll give it another go.

Oswald Walk

Thunderrobot(aka Chet) said...

http://www.deviantart.com/download/61898164/Bosco_Swing_by_Thunderrobot.mov

ok john, i fixed the animation, but it still seems like its running faster than Kali's

Really cool guys. I got most of them to play, including the first one John mentioned woudln't from deviantart. Did you use a scanner on these? And did the animation on a lightboard? Obviously some are done on the computer with a wacom.

- all the frames were done in mirage with a wacom tablet.

Guilherme said...

Hi John, I noticed that there is a problem when firefox users try to se flash content embeded in a blog. You could try using internet explorer, or following the links above:
http://www.ginga2d.com/blog/bosko1.html
http://www.ginga2d.com/blog/bosko2.html
http://www.ginga2d.com/blog/bosko3.html

Best
Guilherme

JohnK said...

Hey Kevin

that's good stuff!

I'm gonna post some Bill Nolan stuff for an exercise too.

DarkShadow8181 said...

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61955494/

heres mine. i think i messed up a bit on the hand. but it was really good practice. please have a lot more tutorials like this. thanks. tell me what you think. :D

Kevin Langley said...

Thanks John, I'm still wanna correct it so that it doesn't 'jump'. That's what I get for not using a lightbox.

Anne-arky said...

I swear the animation did not come from out of my ass. My eyeballs were looking at Bosco.

I'll fix the timing...I think I see what I'm doing wrong.

Anne-arky said...

At last! Fixed the timing. I think.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5212717059939622908&hl=en

angello ///// said...

Hello John!

I finished my Bosko cycle...

(°.°)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN-qom6gPEM

PCUnfunny said...

I am definetly working on my John. I will surely disapoint you this time but I'll try not to in future attempts.

Pedro Vargas said...

Hey, John! Here's my take on the Bosko dance cycle. This is a great learning opportunity for us students.

Bosko cycle

Meridian said...

Wow, I just stumbled across the blog and I must say, you've rekindled a love of animation that hasn't been in me for almost a decade. Back then Cartoon network still played classic material regularly.

The Milt Gross 'toon was really eye opening when I really watched it from an animation comparison aspect, and the first time I've actually laughed out loud from a cartoon sight gag in ages, the dog dancing around disguised as an ostrich was so original and absurd that I couldn't help it!

When I compare that to the drivel that I've been watching for the last decade (mostly original Hannah Barbara toons on Cartoon Network and an unhealthy dose of Spongebob, ugh) I wonder what the hell I've been thinking all this time. I feel like I've been in a coma!

Not to mention the flash/youtube garbage that comes out of Williams Street for Adult Swim (most of which I DON'T watch). Squidbillies? 12 Oz. Mouse? Please somebody kill me.

And now, morning action toons are trying to LOOK dynamic without actually BEING dynamic. The character design is drawn all outrageously out of proportion but nothing is actually DONE with it. It's Like they copied one cell from a fairly well animated toon and cut it at the joints and just said "here, lets just move these limbs around for a half hour, it's dynamic!".

I think the reason we never see animation evolve anymore is that in an age of television reruns, they need to make sure that they can play episodes in any order they need to without a jarring shift in visual styles to distract you from your hypnotic haze.

Well anyway, I didn't mean to ramble on. I just wanted to say thanks to you, and all the aspiring animators on this blog for opening up my eyes and renewing a sense of wonder in an art that I had long ago accepted (misguidedly) as dead.

JohnK said...

Anne-Arky

I just looked at it.
It's great!

Havin' fun?

Anne-arky said...

Yup! :) I haven't animated traditionally in a while, so it's hard to get used to it again...I wish I'd had time to do the other two cycles. If I have time this week I'll give them a try.

Thanks for putting this up!

PCUnfunny said...

Um, sorry about other comment John. That waslind of extreme. Anyways, I am doing mine over.

Art F. said...

I posted my attempt on my blog John. Take a looksee.

Can Dela said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqoL1BSGjlI

Hi!That´s my bosko cycle...:p

vigoureux artiste said...

Nice post you have here on rotoscoping . Everybody is like inspired to create their own roto work.

Fabian Dores Pais said...

hey John, Thanks a lot for your lesson, i try to study the old forgot cartoons, on my blog, take a look. Thanks in advance bye